captain99

I was wondering if anyone knows what the HE on this set of rules on the Game King 6.0 BJ machines I have run across in a casino I frequent, the rules are very liberal and only a few machines are setup with this set of rules and you have to be betting a $1 min to get these rules any less and the rules are different and really only bad thing I find is max bet is $10.00
Single deck
BJ pays 5:2 I think this equals 3:2 since you do not get your original bet back but the screen says BJ pays 5:2
Double on 10,11 only
Split one time only
Double after split
Late Surrender
Insurance offerred when dealer has an ace up
H17
6 Card Charlie
Thanks

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MangoJ

Calculator gives me -0.31% EV, assuming it is a holecard game.

tringlomane

Wow, 3 to 2 (5 for 2) on a Game King game, I'm shocked.

captain99

Thanks Mango so that is a pretty good game I guess? I know it seems like I can win almost everytime I play as long as I dont stay to long and get greedy if I do it seems I loose, I guess that is the house edge kicking in.
It is weird some of them Game Kings have no splits or doubles and BJ pays even money but most people dont even check or pay attention

tringlomane

It is weird some of them Game Kings have no splits or doubles and BJ pays even money but most people dont even check or pay attention

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Most Game Kings have even money blackjack to my knowledge. I have yet to see one that wasn't anyway. It's the price you pay to play cheap blackjack usually...lol The game you described is the best I ever heard of for a Game King.

sevencard2003

so wheres this machine at? with a bet of $1-10 only, sounds perfect for my tiny roll. as long as i can still grind out comps, and play up to 5 hands when no one else is on it, still a $1-50 spread. if it dont shuffle every hand its countable.

bigfoot66

It do shuffle after every hand and you can only spread 1-10

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mickeycrimm

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Have you played it enough to know whether it is allowing you to double after split even though doubling after the split is not listed in the rules?
Have you split Aces, caught a ten and automatically got payed for blackjack even though it is not listed in the rules?
If the game is allowing you to do these two things you have a much stronger play. These were the two glitches in the old full pay IGT blackjack. And the rules you have listed here were the same for that game.

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mickeycrimm

I just seen where you have Split One Time Only and Double After Split both listed here. Can you clarify? I think you have probably stumbled onto the IGT full pay video blackjack which I put at 100.03%. You can glean the compositional strategy to this game from the Wizard of Odds site. That's what I did. The only part of the strategy you can't get at WoO is the 6 Card Charlie strategy (maybe the Wiz could put it up for us).
There are a lot of things that can be done with this extremely low variance game (very low compared to video poker). Running comp is one. Cashback is huge, it spits money out like an ATM machine. Freeplay. Drawings based on action is another big one.

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AxiomOfChoice

I don't think 100.03% is correct.
According to the calculator on WoO, without 6-card charlie, this would have a 0.3% house edge (with perfect composition-dependent play and shuffling after each hand), and 6-card charlie adds 0.16% for the player, so we are down to a 0.14% house edge.
It's a very good game, but there is no player edge off the top, I don't think. It might be +EV after factoring freeplay into account, depending on where you can find it.
If the dealer stands on soft 17, it would be around 100.03% or so (is that what you were calculating?) but the rules say H17.

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